Re: 7 day ban for Dammy
XraalE. moo.
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On Sunday, Nov 1, 2009, Christoph Gutjahr wrote:
> On Sunday, Nov 1, 2009, minator wrote:
> > **again, the TOS is so badly written, it doesn't say this.
>
> The idea that a site's TOS can be used as some foolproof guide as to wether
> a user should be banned or moderated is stupid anyway. Moderating is mostly
> a guessing game, nothing else.
>
> Thus, using the TOS to judge a moderator's performance is unfair, IMHO.
> Fairlanefastback pretty much asked for it in this case - but even if you
> can't find any rule in aw's TOS that would fit Dammy's posting, moderating
> it could still be justified just by common sense: Dammy was not interested
> in any real discussion, he was just repeatedly posting a flame bait he just
> made up.
Why do we keep getting this bullshit again, time after time? If it isn't against the TOS, then it doesn't justify a ban. Period. Despite belief to the contrary, a site has moderators to enforce its TOS. That is their role, not to enforce harmony, not to enforce popular will - it's not a democracy - or to press their own opinion.
Don't like it? FIX THE TOS.
If a site allows their moderation to make up rules on the spot, they will always be biased, they will always be unfair, and they will always result in the site's name being dragged through the mud, your indignant whining makes no difference.
> And you're badmouthing the site and its users all the time anyway, why are
> you surprised that you finally got some unfair treatment (justified or not)
> in return?
Any badmouthing of AmigaWorld is permanently justified. It's pariah status will never leave it: that's the price of being other people's political commissars. Anyone who controls themselves long enough not to criticise it is doing it a real favour.
> > As far as my reply to my ban, the last known legal document, clearly shows
> > AI/KMOS/#? and Hyperion as partners and unless he has proof that that
> > document has be invalidated by both parties, he has no basis to stand on.
Yet the full right to state it. Yes, again and again and again and again if he likes. And to completely make stuff up if he likes. Thats what forums are for. Normally people who do post fantasies get nailed, except where the moderator staff shelter them.
Yet I'm not seeing any powerful arguments to counter Dammy, just the usual "we don't want to hear it", "that's trolling" censorship. AWN should either learn how to win an argument, or stay out of them.
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