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Re: Helgis video in remembrance of dead Jackson

pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, dammy wrote:
>
> Seldom will an innocent man pay for something he is not guilty of. I doubt
> the financial figure (IIRC, was reported in the 7 digit range) would be
> paid by an innocent man.

But that 7 digit figure is only that much big figure to YOU. If the impact made by such trial to his own image was found bigger then this 7 figure why wouldn't he pay?

I for once have serious doubts regarding this kind of deals.

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XraalE. moo.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, pixie wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, dammy wrote:
> >
> > Seldom will an innocent man pay for something he is not guilty of. I doubt
> > the financial figure (IIRC, was reported in the 7 digit range) would be
> > paid by an innocent man.
>
> But that 7 digit figure is only that much big figure to YOU. If the impact
> made by such trial to his own image was found bigger then this 7 figure why
> wouldn't he pay?

Because child molesters don't have a fun time in Federal prison - if they don't have their genitals torn off withbare hands, lets just say they better stock up on Prep H. Mikey wouldn't have lasted ten seconds in prison even if he had been convicted of a much less hated crime. Paying off his accuser made his accuser happy, it made him happy, and it made his fans happy. A win-win situation all round. That however doesn't mean he wasn't doing very unsavoury things to young boys, or that there was something very weird sexually about him. Think his kids are his own? The sperm was donated, he didn't actually have sex with a woman. Do you know it's against the laws of genetics to have blue eyed children when one of the parents is a homozygous brown eye allele carrier?

Why this is all in the slightest bit of doubt is fantastic fanboyism at its best. He was famous, he was talented, he died young: therefore he is above all reproach. News for you: no he fucking isn't.

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pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
>
> Because child molesters don't have a fun time in Federal prison - if they
> don't have their genitals torn off withbare hands, lets just say they
> better stock up on Prep H. Mikey wouldn't have lasted ten seconds in prison
> even if he had been convicted of a much less hated crime. Paying off his
> accuser made his accuser happy, it made him happy, and it made his fans
> happy. A win-win situation all round.

There was no truth served, no win win as you say, if the kid was molested, that is...

> That however doesn't mean he wasn't
> doing very unsavoury things to young boys, or that there was something very
> weird sexually about him. Think his kids are his own? The sperm was
> donated, he didn't actually have sex with a woman. Do you know it's against
> the laws of genetics to have blue eyed children when one of the parents is
> a homozygous brown eye allele carrier?

And how do you know he's homozygous, by the colour of his skin?

> Why this is all in the slightest bit of doubt is fantastic fanboyism at its
> best. He was famous, he was talented, he died young: therefore he is above
> all reproach. News for you: no he fucking isn't.

Yet despite all that he managed to do more for Children then most of us will ever achieve...

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, pixie wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, dammy wrote:
> >
> > Seldom will an innocent man pay for something he is not guilty of. I doubt
> > the financial figure (IIRC, was reported in the 7 digit range) would be
> > paid by an innocent man.
>
> But that 7 digit figure is only that much big figure to YOU. If the impact
> made by such trial to his own image was found bigger then this 7 figure why
> wouldn't he pay?
>
> I for once have serious doubts regarding this kind of deals.

Because if he was cleared in court, he could have gotten his Pepsi gig back which was worth millions @ year. Not only did he pay the money out, he lost the Pepsi gig and his record sales dropped because he did not clear his name. Follow the money.

Dammy

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, pixie wrote:
> > On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, dammy wrote:
> > >
> > > Seldom will an innocent man pay for something he is not guilty of. I doubt
> > > the financial figure (IIRC, was reported in the 7 digit range) would be
> > > paid by an innocent man.
> >
> > But that 7 digit figure is only that much big figure to YOU. If the impact
> > made by such trial to his own image was found bigger then this 7 figure why
> > wouldn't he pay?
>
> Because child molesters don't have a fun time in Federal prison

IIRC, the first trial was civil, not criminal. Paying off a Federal witness to drop the charges is a very severe crime.

Dammy

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XraalE. moo.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, pixie wrote:
>
> There was no truth served, no win win as you say, if the kid was molested,
> that is...

He was molested. Just not in the way the media put across.

> And how do you know he's homozygous, by the colour of his skin?

Uhm, yeah, obviously. His racial origin is west African, despite his many attempts (and those of his sister in particular) to wipe evidence of it from his face and skin and hair. He had no recorded Caucasian ancestry at all. His ancestors were slaves. There's no shame in that, but they were Africans through and through. Brown eyed, black skinned Africans with wide lips and flat noses. Just like Michael used to be.

His children are not. It doesn't take an anthropologist to work out they aren't his. Surgery doesn't change what you are inside, except in Michael's dream world.

> Yet despite all that he managed to do more for Children then most of us
> will ever achieve...

Like what? All I saw was him propping himself up as a Messianic figure, but only in his own fantasies. If he actually had given some of his vast wealth to improve the life impoverished children rather than build himself a funfair, he might actually have done some good. But he didn't.

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, Bernd Meyer wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, B-CNet wrote:
> > Something the scoffing wolves don't want to be reminded of is that he was a
> > fine performer who died AN INNOCENT MAN.
>
> No, he died an unconvicted man. Whether he was innocent or not, we shall
> probably never know. However, if, as I believe is your belief, there is a
> higher, all-seeing power which he now has to face, we shall rest assured
> that he shall be justly rewarded for the way he lived his life, whichever
> way that was.
>

Indeed.

Back biting is a nasty game to play whether one believes in a higher power or not.

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pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
>
> He was molested. Just not in the way the media put across.
>
> Uhm, yeah, obviously. His racial origin is west African, despite his many
> attempts (and those of his sister in particular) to wipe evidence of it
> from his face and skin and hair.

There's tons of black people with blue/green eyes, as for the skin get whitened why don't we see just another black going white? After all we got all those white turning black seasonly... he managed to get all his body white, it would be quite an science achievement wouldn't it? The doctor would be just another Clinton doing lectures all around the world around his novel work, oh wait...

Perhaps you've seen a few blacks on your life, but they seem afro-ameericans, not just plain Africans, still what is the fuss exactly? Can't he just be sterile? Are you going after those artificial ensiminations who occur each year?

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Rich Woods. rww@realpix.com.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, Bernd Meyer wrote:

> No, he died an unconvicted man. Whether he was innocent or not, we shall
> probably never know. However, if, as I believe is your belief, there is a
> higher, all-seeing power which he now has to face, we shall rest assured
> that he shall be justly rewarded for the way he lived his life, whichever
> way that was.
>

Well put.

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Re: Terrible Tragic NEWS!!!!!!! The King of Pop, no more.

Rich Woods. rww@realpix.com.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, Jungle Bunny wrote:
> On Sunday, Jun 28, 2009, Jungle Bunny wrote:
> > He was actually a pretty good piano player, although he sucked on the
> > organ.
> >
>
> He touched many young lives.
>

Very good.

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Rich Woods. rww@realpix.com.

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On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
>
> Justice isn't bought with money.
>

I'd really like to hear Bubbles side of it.

All that monkeying around.

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XraalE. moo.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, pixie wrote:
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> There's tons of black people with blue/green eyes

There are no black people with blue/green eyes. And no, Vanessa Williams is not black.

> as for the skin get
> whitened why don't we see just another black going white? After all we got
> all those white turning black seasonly...

I see people tan. They aren't going black. The amount of melanin in the skin is only a fraction of what it is in Africans.

> he managed to get all his body
> white, it would be quite an science achievement wouldn't it? The doctor
> would be just another Clinton doing lectures all around the world around
> his novel work, oh wait...

No, he would just be in a long line of Bollywood actors and actresses that have significantly lightened their skin through treatments.

> Perhaps you've seen a few blacks on your life, but they seem
> afro-ameericans, not just plain Africans, still what is the fuss exactly?
> Can't he just be sterile? Are you going after those artificial
> ensiminations who occur each year?

They aren't his kids. He said they were his kids. That's the fuss. Not even did he ever go near a woman sexually, he didn't even donate sperm. The guy was a sexual freak.

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pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, XraalE wrote:
>
> There are no black people with blue/green eyes. And no, Vanessa Williams is
> not black.

Cabo Verde has lots of them, strange...

> I see people tan. They aren't going black. The amount of melanin in the
> skin is only a fraction of what it is in Africans.

Damn!

> No, he would just be in a long line of Bollywood actors and actresses that
> have significantly lightened their skin through treatments.

> They aren't his kids. He said they were his kids. That's the fuss. Not even
> did he ever go near a woman sexually, he didn't even donate sperm. The guy
> was a sexual freak.

Why he didn't donated his own then?

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

(86.26.216.66) [86.26.216.66]
On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> Do you know it's against
> the laws of genetics to have blue eyed children when one of the parents is
> a homozygous brown eye allele carrier?

I've never understood this clearly, so excuse my ignorance.

An acquaintance of mine has brown hair, brown eyes, white skin.
The mother of his child has brown hair, brown eyes, latin american skin.
His child has blue eyes and blonde hair.

I'm guessing there is an exception to the rule? Or i'm just plain dumb. lol

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pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
>
> I've never understood this clearly, so excuse my ignorance.
>
> An acquaintance of mine has brown hair, brown eyes, white skin.
> The mother of his child has brown hair, brown eyes, latin american skin.
> His child has blue eyes and blonde hair.

He's a blessing child, he got 4% of chance of having these attributes and yet managed to have it...

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XraalE. moo.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, pixie wrote:
> On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> >
> > There are no black people with blue/green eyes. And no, Vanessa Williams is
> > not black.
>
> Cabo Verde has lots of them, strange...

Then Cabo Verde must be the place where they tried to bring back Hitler.

> Why he didn't donated his own then?

Why didn't he like women? Or at least like men? I don't know. He was weird.

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XraalE. moo.

(82.40.25.245) 82-40-25-245.cable.ubr04.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> > Do you know it's against
> > the laws of genetics to have blue eyed children when one of the parents is
> > a homozygous brown eye allele carrier?
>
> I've never understood this clearly, so excuse my ignorance.
>
> An acquaintance of mine has brown hair, brown eyes, white skin.
> The mother of his child has brown hair, brown eyes, latin american skin.
> His child has blue eyes and blonde hair.

There are two main genes for eye colour in humans, with several grades between them. Everyone has two alleles. If they are both the same, they are called homozygous. If they are different, they are heretozygous.

The blue gene is recessive, the brown dominant: if you have a brown gene, your eyes will be brown, even if you have a blue gene too.

If both parents have a recessive blue gene, they have a 1 in 4 chance that a child born to them will have both blue genes and be blue eyed.

> I'm guessing there is an exception to the rule? Or i'm just plain dumb.
> lol

There are no exceptions. It's the same with blood group. Certain incompatible genetic traits are sure evidence of infidelity. But then it's been estimated that 1 in every 5 children born even in stable marriages (i.e. not chavscum) is to another father...

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, XraalE wrote:

> But then it's
> been estimated that 1 in every 5 children born even in stable marriages
> (i.e. not chavscum) is to another father...

And they say it's a mans world.

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B-CNet. .@....

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Fair warning, the following link leads to a Christian news site, but the URL was 249 characters, and I thought that a bit much. Anyway, that said, read the story, and imagine, if you will, what the conspiracy theorists could come up with from this: http://tinyurl.com/n5dulz (Read it carefully, though, so y’all don’t go off half-cocked, too. OK?)

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

(86.26.216.66) [86.26.216.66]
On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
> > On Monday, Jun 29, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> > > Do you know it's against
> > > the laws of genetics to have blue eyed children when one of the parents is
> > > a homozygous brown eye allele carrier?
> >
> > I've never understood this clearly, so excuse my ignorance.
> >
> > An acquaintance of mine has brown hair, brown eyes, white skin.
> > The mother of his child has brown hair, brown eyes, latin american skin.
> > His child has blue eyes and blonde hair.
>
> There are two main genes for eye colour in humans, with several grades
> between them. Everyone has two alleles. If they are both the same, they are
> called homozygous. If they are different, they are heretozygous.
>
> The blue gene is recessive, the brown dominant: if you have a brown gene,
> your eyes will be brown, even if you have a blue gene too.
>
> If both parents have a recessive blue gene, they have a 1 in 4 chance that
> a child born to them will have both blue genes and be blue eyed.
>
> > I'm guessing there is an exception to the rule? Or i'm just plain dumb.
> > lol
>
> There are no exceptions. It's the same with blood group. Certain
> incompatible genetic traits are sure evidence of infidelity. But then it's
> been estimated that 1 in every 5 children born even in stable marriages
> (i.e. not chavscum) is to another father...
>

lol

The child is definately his, he had a DNA test done when she came after him for CSA money!

On the subject of blood groups, I'm O Rhesus Negative and apparently it's rare a rocking horse poo. My Dad's eldest brother has it too. Is that random or can it be inherited?

The blood donation bank love me, but i'm pretty screwed should i ever need a transfusion. :)

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

(86.26.216.66) [86.26.216.66]
On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, B-CNet wrote:
> Fair warning, the following link leads to a Christian news site, but the
> URL was 249 characters, and I thought that a bit much. Anyway, that said,
> read the story, and imagine, if you will, what the conspiracy theorists
> could come up with from this: http://tinyurl.com/n5dulz (Read it carefully,
> though, so y’all don’t go off half-cocked, too. OK?)
>

"As to whether or not the legendary singer had prayed to receive Christ, through his spokesman Crouch responded: “He did NOT reject Jesus or the prayer when (we) prayed, and gladly joined in prayer.”"

No Muslim would ever reject Jesus(as) as the Messiah and we accept Christians as followers of a divine revealed religion.

"Crouch's spokesman relayed one peculiarity about Jackson’s rented home: forbidden as a child from celebrating Christmas because of his Jehovah’s Witness faith which precludes such celebration, Jackson was still celebrating Christmas:"

Again, not an uncommon thing for many Muslims (Especially converts or those raised in Christian countries).

We have Christmas decorations in our house, we give and receive presents on Christmas day and remember his word and deeds in celebration of the birthday of the Messiah(as). (Even though the day is not correct, it is the intention that is most important.)

I guess we'll all find out when he is buried whether he was Muslim or not.

Allahu a'lam.

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:

<snip>

> On the subject of blood groups, I'm O Rhesus Negative and apparently it's
> rare a rocking horse poo. My Dad's eldest brother has it too. Is that
> random or can it be inherited?

Same as eye color, it's random genetics.

> The blood donation bank love me, but i'm pretty screwed should i ever need
> a transfusion. :)

IIRC, it's not that rare at all but it is universal donor blood and that is the reason they love you. AB negative is the rarest (1:167).

Dammy

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blood

Not PM ahtuos. #!/bin/sh.

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On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, dammy wrote:
> IIRC, it's not that rare at all but it is universal donor blood and that is
> the reason they love you. AB negative is the rarest (1:167).

There isn't really such a thing as universal donor blood.

Blood compatibility is way more complicated than what they teach you in school. The prevalence of even the most common types varies greatly between populations, and there are in addition a huge number of less common factors.

If you ever need blood, unless you're actually dying right there and then they will first "cross match" which means they take a tiny sample of your blood and a tiny sample from the donated blood and mix them, then check nothing untoward happens.

This is (almost) fool proof. It's simple, low tech and reliable. If there's some rare factor that's incompatible, or even if someone just stuck the wrong sticker on a bag (it has happened) the cross match will fail and they'll try another donation, whereas if they just matched paperwork together the incompatibility would happen inside your body where it would cause mayhem.

Ignore whether people tell you your blood is "common" or "rare", just donate if you're able to.

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

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On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, Not PM ahtuos wrote:
> On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, dammy wrote:
> > IIRC, it's not that rare at all but it is universal donor blood and that is
> > the reason they love you. AB negative is the rarest (1:167).
>
> There isn't really such a thing as universal donor blood.
>
> Blood compatibility is way more complicated than what they teach you in
> school. The prevalence of even the most common types varies greatly between
> populations, and there are in addition a huge number of less common
> factors.
>
> If you ever need blood, unless you're actually dying right there and then
> they will first "cross match" which means they take a tiny sample of your
> blood and a tiny sample from the donated blood and mix them, then check
> nothing untoward happens.
>
> This is (almost) fool proof. It's simple, low tech and reliable. If there's
> some rare factor that's incompatible, or even if someone just stuck the
> wrong sticker on a bag (it has happened) the cross match will fail and
> they'll try another donation, whereas if they just matched paperwork
> together the incompatibility would happen inside your body where it would
> cause mayhem.
>
> Ignore whether people tell you your blood is "common" or "rare", just
> donate if you're able to.
>

You know more about this than the nurses and doctors because <insert reason here> ?

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XraalE. moo.

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On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
>
> You know more about this than the nurses and doctors because <insert
> reason here> ?

He is right enough. AB blood doesn't guarantee that the blood won't be rejected by the recipient, but it does reduce the chances greatly. The old ABO blood groupings are too simple. There are more than a few histocompatibility factors. Since pumping someone up with incompatible blood is a death sentence, compatibility is always checked before transfusion. After all, maybe Mr. O only thinks he is O, maybe because the man he thinks is his father is O.

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shi'at e-Ali. shi@e-ali.

(86.26.216.66) [86.26.216.66]
On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
> >
> > You know more about this than the nurses and doctors because <insert
> > reason here> ?
>
> He is right enough. AB blood doesn't guarantee that the blood won't be
> rejected by the recipient, but it does reduce the chances greatly. The old
> ABO blood groupings are too simple. There are more than a few
> histocompatibility factors. Since pumping someone up with incompatible
> blood is a death sentence, compatibility is always checked before
> transfusion. After all, maybe Mr. O only thinks he is O, maybe because the
> man he thinks is his father is O.
>

But isn;t that the whole point of O rhesus negative blood?

Anyone can have it, regardless of their own blood type.

Whereas people with that type can only have the same type in a transfusion, no other blood type will be compatible.

That s what the staff at the donatation bank tell me EVERYTIME I go, as though they are the first person to tell me "Ooh, anyone can have your blood in an emergency but you can only have the same type of yours".

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XraalE. moo.

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On Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009, shi'at e-Ali wrote:
>
> But isn;t that the whole point of O rhesus negative blood?
>
> Anyone can have it, regardless of their own blood type.
>
> Whereas people with that type can only have the same type in a transfusion,
> no other blood type will be compatible.
>
> That s what the staff at the donatation bank tell me EVERYTIME I go, as
> though they are the first person to tell me "Ooh, anyone can have your
> blood in an emergency but you can only have the same type of yours".

O is the "universal donor" and AB is the "universal recipient", but if you blindly work on that principle, you're going to kill someone, even if it works 99.99% of the time. It refers only to the antigens on the surface of the blood cells. Just because someone is AB doesn't mean their IgM won't attack O blood, it just means it won't *usually*. There's a hell of a lot more to it. And there is adaptive immunity too. If I immunise you with human type O blood with an adjuvant to prompt a response, you'll probably not be able to accept it any more regardless of your blood group. Some people have this response from birth.

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