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Re: Chrome OS

AdmV. AdmV.

(195.11.197.194) london.stagetech.com
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> Hi minator,
>
> I respect what you have to say,

You don't respect what others say. Its a primary failing in your stupidity.

> however, explain this then.
>
> I have win-dos-xp+SP1

There is your first mistake. You're running SP1, so I already know your machine is infested, broken, will have serious problems.

> I started my computer, clicked on "My Computer" and opened up the file
> display of one hard drive, then I went to the subdirectory of another,
> through the WINDOWS FILE SYSTEM "My Computer" again to another subdirectory
> on another hard drive.

Wow. You are clever. If only you knew how to download updates.

> I cut and pasted multiple files, the biggest were 50 Megs (sometimes 2 or
> 3), and say 5 Megs (about 5 to 10 files at a time) from one window to the
> other. A few times I grabbed a 100 or 200 Meg file. These are MP3's and the
> big files were movies.
>
> So, what happens?
>
> THREE TIMES after about 5 transfers of groups of files, the system LOCKED
> UP!!!!

Yes. The system is owned by a complete fucking imbecile, is indecently behind on its patching, and I don;t doubt is run in fundamentally flawed and disasterous ways.

> The desktop reset after a window appeared saying "end task now" and I
> clicked in the box.
>
> Every time I rebooted!

So, you rebooted the system. Hint, the system is broken by your own never ending stupidity. Even then, its only processes that crash, the system despite your unceasing - never ending cretinous stupidity, sticks around letting you, the imbecile idiot reboot it.

> But, there were THREE lock ups!!!!! This on a "tried and true" "reliable"
> memory protected system!
>
> It's CRAP I tell you!
> I'm using winxp, SP1, with 1 Gig of ram and I think 1.5 Gigs swap space and
> the CPU is an INTEL P4 2.26 GHz.

> In addition to this, a memory protected OS is 200 Megs, while a no memory
> protection OS is ONLY 600 K. SWEET.
>
> Also, the no memory protection OS can be 100% memory resident, while the
> other CAN NOT BE.
> Anyone that wants one, well, you gots PLENTY to choose from, leave AT LEAST
> ONE that isn't for the wise, thank you very much.

1. Go away and try updating your system to service pack 3 and the patches that follow it. Do not pass go, do not take 200.

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GK. malibannnospam@t-online.de.

(217.113.178.29) 217.113.178.29
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009, minator wrote:

>
> THREE TIMES after about 5 transfers of groups
> of files, the system LOCKED UP!!!!

There is something wrong with you system. You are copying files between 2 volumes and your system hangs. There might be a problem with your HD, the HD controller or with you board. What you did should work even on a 20 Years aold MS-DOS.

> In addition to this, a memory protected OS is 200 Megs, while a no memory
> protection OS is ONLY 600 K. SWEET.

There are Linux version, where the Linux kernel has a size of less than 700kB and they have memory protection.

> Also, the no memory protection OS can be 100% memory
> resident, while the other CAN NOT BE.

----------------------------------------------------
Definition memory resident:


Permanently in memory. Normally, a computer does not have enough memory to hold all the programs you use. When you want to run a program, therefore, the operating system is obliged to free some memory by copying data or programs from main memory to a disk. This process is known as swapping.
----------------------------------------------------

Linux, WinXP ( and others ) could be configured to be memory resident.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

(64.180.77.242) [64.180.77.242]
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, GK wrote:
> On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009, minator wrote:
> >
> > THREE TIMES after about 5 transfers of groups
> > of files, the system LOCKED UP!!!!
>
> There is something wrong with you system. You are copying files between 2
> volumes and your system hangs. There might be a problem with your HD, the
> HD controller or with you board. What you did should work even on a 20
> Years aold MS-DOS.

Hi GK,

Yep, not the OS's fault, I'm sure

>
> > In addition to this, a memory protected OS is 200 Megs, while a no memory
> > protection OS is ONLY 600 K. SWEET.
>
> There are Linux version, where the Linux kernel has a size of less than
> 700kB and they have memory protection.

Yes, and I'm sure SO USEFUL these Linux versions are. LOL!!!!


> > Also, the no memory protection OS can be 100% memory
> > resident, while the other CAN NOT BE.
> Linux, WinXP ( and others ) could be configured to be memory resident.


I'm sorry, but you are WAY WRONG here. In XP for instance, I can't even make a RAM: disk. MacOSX is placeable in a RAM: disk and the OS can be booted from there??? HA! HA I say!!

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zee. z@z.z.

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On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

>
> I'm sorry, but you are WAY WRONG here. In XP for instance, I can't even
> make a RAM: disk. MacOSX is placeable in a RAM: disk and the OS can be
> booted from there??? HA! HA I say!!

You've been proven wrong on this time and again, and on other fora. To wit:

http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/TechOff/19142-Microsofts-XP-RAM-Disk-Driver/

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/05/27/free-ramdisk-for-windows-vista-xp-2000-and-2003-server/

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa940469%28WinEmbedded.5%29.aspx

type windows ram disk in google and you'll find, oh, a few thousand relevant hits.

And to further break your heart, it's in Windows all the way up to Win7.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

(64.180.77.242) [64.180.77.242]
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, zee wrote:
> On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm sorry, but you are WAY WRONG here. In XP for instance, I can't even
> > make a RAM: disk. MacOSX is placeable in a RAM: disk and the OS can be
> > booted from there??? HA! HA I say!!
>
> You've been proven wrong on this time and again, and on other fora. To
> wit:
>
>
> http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/TechOff/19142-Microsofts-XP-RAM-Disk-Driver/
>

Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhh, HOW THE GOD DAMN HELL COULD I HAVE _possibly_ NOT KNOWN THIS?????!!!!!!!!!!!! So EASY to set up micro project.




>
> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/05/27/free-ramdisk-for-windows-vista-xp-2000-and-2003-server/

Can one trust giveaways?



AFTER reading your post I got very entertaining feedback at microshaft.cock when I typed in "ram disk" in the search field, like this little gem

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa940469%28WinEmbedded.5%29.aspx

okay, YOU found it and I didn't know about it


Hmmmm appareently one of problems was _not waiting till_ *2007* to COMPLAIN.
"Windows XP Embedded SP2 Feature Pack 2007"

Total bullshit from a sad pathetic incompetent company.... Did you know that in 2005 when I typed in windowsxp and ram disk, I _got the definition_ of what a ram disk was!!!! on their website!


> And to further break your heart, it's in Windows all the way up to Win7.

And yet again, they copy Amiga.

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zee. z@z.z.

(67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> And yet again, they copy Amiga.

If you think the RAM: Disk originated with Amiga OS you need to up your meds.

In fact, why don't you go over to the shift nurse and ask her to do that right away?

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zee. z@z.z.

(67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> Can one trust giveaways?

Don't spit too hard on freeware, slappy: it's about the only avenue available to get software in your beloved Amiga religion. There aren't any commercial endeavors worth a damn left for you.

Note: buying 8-10 year old boxed software from the Amiga's "heydays" being sold by some guy working out of an inline storage shed doesn't equal an active commercial development endeavor on anyone's part.

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zee. z@z.z.

(67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> And yet again, they copy Amiga.


Ooh - missed this:

"Microsoft added a RAM disk to MS-DOS (version 2.0) in 1983."

from the wikipedia entry on RAM Disks. Three years before C= and the inclusion in 1.2. Ouch. Kinda gotta hurt, doesn't it, slappy?

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GK. malibannNOSPAM@t-online.de.

(79.216.249.137) [79.216.249.137]
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> > > Also, the no memory protection OS can be 100% memory
> > > resident, while the other CAN NOT BE.
> > Linux, WinXP ( and others ) could be configured to be memory resident.
>
>
> I'm sorry, but you are WAY WRONG here. In XP for instance, I can't even
> make a RAM: disk. MacOSX is placeable in a RAM: disk and the OS can be
> booted from there??? HA! HA I say!!

I developed n application for a WindowsXP version, and at systems start the whole system was copied from a solid state disk into the RAM, so every write access to C: was directed into the RAM: on a warmstart the RAM still acted as C: The system was memory resident.

If you want to use it on your WinXP system, you can get ramdisk.sys from Microsoft for free

The old floppy Amigas used a RAM disk as replacement for the hard-disk, today systems uses a real hard-disks as a replacement for RAM: The diskcache cares about a fast access to system parts that are used often, it does this automatically that's much mor comfortable than a RAM disk.

Many Linux distribution had a boot loader that used a RAM disk. The kernel and a virtual file system was decrunched into the RAM and as long as nothing was mounted the RAM disk acts as system disk ... AFAIK most Linux LiveCDs' still work in this manner.

http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html



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Gregg. ..

(81.153.187.43) [81.153.187.43]
Ask yourself this : "If I am so fucking clever, why am I arguing with Athesit2 on the Internet?"

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/163292.shtml

Gregg

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(94.197.169.149) [94.197.169.149]
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Gregg wrote:
> Ask yourself this : "If I am so fucking clever, why am I arguing with
> Athesit2 on the Internet?"
>

Bordom. You'd be surprised at the lengths I'll go to, to relieve that feeling.

> http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/163292.shtml
>
> Gregg
>

Heh, so for correcting the moron, we should all feel "shame"... Interesting.

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AdmV. AdmV.

(195.11.197.194) london.stagetech.com
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

> I'm sorry, but you are WAY WRONG here. In XP for instance, I can't even
> make a RAM: disk. MacOSX is placeable in a RAM: disk and the OS can be
> booted from there??? HA! HA I say!!


http://www.picobay.com/projects/2006/06/how-to-make-windows-xp-ram-disk-drive.html

You cannot make a ram disk, because:-
A/ You are a very very stupid person.
B/ You are an imbecile.
C/ You don't understand ANY system you use.

Here is a tip for you. Your starting point is to assume you know nothing and learn. Rather than your default that you know everything and are incable of learning.

Now, I'm betting you have failed to go away and apply the service packs as you were told. Right? Yes. Exactly

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XraalE. moo.

(82.40.25.245) 82-40-25-245.cable.ubr04.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, . wrote:
> On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Gregg wrote:
> > Ask yourself this : "If I am so fucking clever, why am I arguing with
> > Athesit2 on the Internet?"
> >
>
> Bordom. You'd be surprised at the lengths I'll go to, to relieve that
> feeling.
>
> > http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/163292.shtml
>
> Heh, so for correcting the moron, we should all feel "shame"...
> Interesting.

You aren't correcting him. He isn't capable of being corrected. He doesn't have the level of understanding required to adjust his paranoid delusional opinions. An attempt turns a irregular 20 post spurt from him into a long, protracted 100+ post marathon of complete tinhat gibberish, which long since lost any limited entertainment value for most of us. There are more productive ways to relieve your boredom.

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(94.196.167.170) [94.196.167.170]
On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, XraalE wrote:

> You aren't correcting him. He isn't capable of being corrected. He doesn't
> have the level of understanding required to adjust his paranoid delusional
> opinions. An attempt turns a irregular 20 post spurt from him into a long,
> protracted 100+ post marathon of complete tinhat gibberish, which long
> since lost any limited entertainment value for most of us. There are more
> productive ways to relieve your boredom.
>

Hmm, I guess that's me told then!

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

(64.180.77.242) [64.180.77.242]
On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, . wrote:
> > On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Gregg wrote:
> > > Ask yourself this : "If I am so fucking clever, why am I arguing with
> > > Athesit2 on the Internet?"
> > >
> >
> > Bordom. You'd be surprised at the lengths I'll go to, to relieve that
> > feeling.
> >
> > > http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/163292.shtml
> >
> > Heh, so for correcting the moron, we should all feel "shame"...
> > Interesting.
>
> You aren't correcting him. He isn't capable of being corrected. He doesn't
> have the level of understanding required to adjust his paranoid delusional
> opinions. An attempt turns a irregular 20 post spurt from him into a long,
> protracted 100+ post marathon of complete tinhat gibberish, which long
> since lost any limited entertainment value for most of us. There are more
> productive ways to relieve your boredom.



This is not true at all.

I am NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, you see, the problem is that all of you are DEFENDING the UTTER ABSOLUTE INCOMPETENCE of microshaft.cock.

I mean, in _2007's_ service 2 is where it becomes available.

Also, if the ram disk isn't actually issued by the OS maker, it may not be actually really reliable (not that microshaft IS reliable, mind you), because something like that should be aware of an operating systems innards to work smoothly.


And you're ALSO defending the merits of a twisted convoluted insane language, C, instead of saying "hey, he's right, they should DEFINITELY COMPLETELY overhaul the syntax structure used, because it is mental."

Anyone defending this (and Java and C++), really has a screw loose.


After all, here is NO REASON IN THE WORLD that MERELY this _1 sentence_ below
Print "Hello World"
shouldn't open a screen and DO AS REQUESTED!

Anything further, needs the programmers attention (positioning, higher res screen, fontsize, colour, etc. etc.)

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(94.196.27.136) [94.196.27.136]
On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, XraalE wrote:

> > You aren't correcting him. He isn't capable of being corrected. He doesn't
> > have the level of understanding required to adjust his paranoid delusional
> > opinions. An attempt turns a irregular 20 post spurt from him into a long,
> > protracted 100+ post marathon of complete tinhat gibberish, which long
> > since lost any limited entertainment value for most of us. There are more
> > productive ways to relieve your boredom.
>
>
>
> This is not true at all.
>

We'll see....

> I am NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, you see, the problem is that all of you
> are DEFENDING the UTTER ABSOLUTE INCOMPETENCE of microshaft.cock.
>

Hmm, random caps... I'm guessing you're running low on meds.

Also, I wouldn't be accusing anyone of incompetence Mr SP1.

> I mean, in _2007's_ service 2 is where it becomes available.
>

Oh, so you knew that other service packs have been delivered? It does beg the question as to why in the name of all that's holy did you not install them...

> Also, if the ram disk isn't actually issued by the OS maker, it may not be
> actually really reliable (not that microshaft IS reliable, mind you),
> because something like that should be aware of an operating systems innards
> to work smoothly.
>

They're called API's. You might want to look into them sometime.

>
> And you're ALSO defending the merits of a twisted convoluted insane
> language, C, instead of saying "hey, he's right, they should DEFINITELY
> COMPLETELY overhaul the syntax structure used, because it is mental."
>

It's only "mental" (seriously, are you going in for an irony award or something?) if you don't understand it.

> Anyone defending this (and Java and C++), really has a screw loose.
>

I like my programs written by people who know what they're doing.


> Anything further, needs the programmers attention (positioning, higher res
> screen, fontsize, colour, etc. etc.)
>


In this thread, Atheist demands that computers be made psychic. Fucking LOL

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AdmV. AdmV.

(94.194.202.229) [94.194.202.229]
On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> > On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, . wrote:
> > > On Thursday, Jul 16, 2009, Gregg wrote:
> > > > Ask yourself this : "If I am so fucking clever, why am I arguing with
> > > > Athesit2 on the Internet?"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bordom. You'd be surprised at the lengths I'll go to, to relieve that
> > > feeling.
> > >
> > > > http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/163292.shtml
> > >
> > > Heh, so for correcting the moron, we should all feel "shame"...
> > > Interesting.
> >
> > You aren't correcting him. He isn't capable of being corrected. He doesn't
> > have the level of understanding required to adjust his paranoid delusional
> > opinions. An attempt turns a irregular 20 post spurt from him into a long,
> > protracted 100+ post marathon of complete tinhat gibberish, which long
> > since lost any limited entertainment value for most of us. There are more
> > productive ways to relieve your boredom.
>
>
>
> This is not true at all.
>
> I am NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT, you see, the problem is that all of you
> are DEFENDING the UTTER ABSOLUTE INCOMPETENCE of microshaft.cock.
>
> I mean, in _2007's_ service 2 is where it becomes available.
>
> Also, if the ram disk isn't actually issued by the OS maker, it may not be
> actually really reliable (not that microshaft IS reliable, mind you),
> because something like that should be aware of an operating systems innards
> to work smoothly.
>
>
> And you're ALSO defending the merits of a twisted convoluted insane
> language, C, instead of saying "hey, he's right, they should DEFINITELY
> COMPLETELY overhaul the syntax structure used, because it is mental."
>
> Anyone defending this (and Java and C++), really has a screw loose.
>
>
> After all, here is NO REASON IN THE WORLD that MERELY this _1 sentence_
> below
> Print "Hello World"
> shouldn't open a screen and DO AS REQUESTED!
>
> Anything further, needs the programmers attention (positioning, higher res
> screen, fontsize, colour, etc. etc.)

The company you love to write in caps about and jump up and down demanding we all share your stupidity about came up with C#.

Yes. C#. Now fucknut. Dickhead. Moron. Fuck off and apply the service packs you have been told to, and shut the fuck up.

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GK. malibann@t-online.de.

(79.216.191.186) [79.216.191.186]
On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:


> After all, here is NO REASON IN THE WORLD that MERELY this _1 sentence_
> below

> Print "Hello World"

> shouldn't open a screen and DO AS REQUESTED!

There are a lot reasons why 'professional' programming languages don't do this.

With 'C' you can write totally different applications, from simple command line tools to drivers and up to complete applications.

- For a cammdline tool it is wrong to open a screen, you want to have the output on the same console where the tool was started ( usually standard IO ).

- For a game you want to have a special resolution and for driver you may want no output at all.

- A driver should not open a screen at all.

C does this by not haveing a 'PRINT' command at all, the printf() function is a part of a standard library, it could be linked to your program or not.

So it could be possible to write a library, that has a print function that would open an own screen if no screen was opened before . But AFAIK no one wrote this library for you.

On the Amiga, most developers know what kind of application they want to write, they know how to get the output on console, window or screens, they know how to choose the screen resolution, color depth, font ... you will have three pages of C code before you can display a single line of text.

This it's not the problem of 'C' if you don't know how to do ... Some IDEs on other systems will write this code for you, if you chose the right project type.
Most Amiga developers wrote their initializing code for a game once and modify it when needed, the Amiga programming reference books tell you how to do, they have examples you can alter for your needs.

You should allways remeber, C is not a „Beginner’s All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code“ ...

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Velcro_SP. no_spam@thanks.

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On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, AdmV wrote:

> Yes. C#. Now fucknut. Dickhead. Moron. Fuck off and apply the service packs
> you have been told to, and shut the fuck up.

Why don't you lay off him. What a lifeless little weasel you are to type things like that.

Velcro_SP

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AdmV. AdmV.

(94.194.202.229) [94.194.202.229]
On Wednesday, Jul 22, 2009, Velcro_SP wrote:
> On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, AdmV wrote:
>
> > Yes. C#. Now fucknut. Dickhead. Moron. Fuck off and apply the service packs
> > you have been told to, and shut the fuck up.
>
> Why don't you lay off him. What a lifeless little weasel you are to type
> things like that.
>
> Velcro_SP
>

Oh look, an Athiest apologist.

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Velcro_SP. no_spam@thanks.

(207.136.251.178) [207.136.251.178]
On Wednesday, Jul 22, 2009, AdmV wrote:
> On Wednesday, Jul 22, 2009, Velcro_SP wrote:
> > On Friday, Jul 17, 2009, AdmV wrote:
> >
> > > Yes. C#. Now fucknut. Dickhead. Moron. Fuck off and apply the service packs
> > > you have been told to, and shut the fuck up.
> >
> > Why don't you lay off him. What a lifeless little weasel you are to type
> > things like that.
> >
> > Velcro_SP
> >
>
> Oh look, an Athiest apologist.

It's not about him, I couldn't tell you two things about him. It's about you. Really, what kind of person are you to sit and type this stuff "fucknut, dickhead, moron, fuck off, shut the fuck up," etc. Is this junior high? What kind of grown person acts like that?

Velcro_SP

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