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What the HELL is Wrong With Vista????

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Le Stu. ..

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, AdmV wrote:
> On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, Le Stu wrote:
> > On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, AdmV wrote:
> > >
> > > If you have little historical baggage in terms of legacy, to be fair, the
> > > MS products will be fine, assuming you supply the right level of base
> > > hardware. From what you say, it should be fine in your case.
> >
> > Yep. Pentium Dual Core, PC6400 memory, ATI HD4850 and a bargain bucket
> > Gigabyte mobo. Hardly cutting edge ('cept for the video card which is not
> > only overkill but bloody noisy) but certainly good enough for Vista. Nice
> > cheap build.
>
>
> Yes, but you can ignore most of the above. Anything half decent allied up
> with 'enough ram' (read 4GB) is enough for Vista, especially if gaming is
> not in your primary focus.
>
> ATI are beating the shit out of Nvidia, The new 5 series are the best cards
> on the market, with really decent power specs. The 4 series are power
> hungry, noisy, but good performers. You should get a new 5 series model as
> soon as the opportunity arrises.
>

I reckon I'd get a Q6600 in there if I was going to spend the money, rather than update the video card. Anyway, I'm skint :) Glad I got an ATI card, though. Not just for the power but the audio out through HDMI was amazing when I had my rig hooked up to the TV. No SPDIF passthrough nonsense. Or maybe Nvidia have fixed that now.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, AdmV wrote:
> Some items that Vista has, actually get removed in 7, and are not coming
> back.
>
> The Vista family remains a dire OS, and only the generic windows market
> will drag it out of the shit.



What's bizarro is, when I double click on a photo in Vista, whatever the display program is, it opens ANOTHER window with the next photo I double click on, AND, I CAN NOT drag and drop another photo into the file display program!!!! It just doesn't replace the current picture with the dragged/dropped photo!

The semi-transparent thing just doesn't do it for me, it's hard to see the top of the current program, so I can grab and slide it across the screen to another location.

Oh, and that hard drive just keeps flicking on and off..... what a TERRIBLE OS, and, I gave it a chance, and I'm _not_ surprised to be let down as much as I am....

In addition to that, I know understand that Apple Mac ad about EVERY time I start a program, it asks if it's ok to, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, AdmV wrote:
>
> I can't work out what is funnier. The fact you failed to ask for the
> passwords, or the fact that this person lets you near their computer, on a
> presumption, god alone knows why, a premise that you are fit for such a
> task.
>
> I thought you were the most stupid cretinous person on the planet, and now
> you've found someone dumber than you. Congratulations.


Uh-oh. I hope she never comes across this comment about me.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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Okay, what's with the 3 requests to delete something, and THEN the screen goes COMPLETELY BLACK for 1 second or so, and the files are deleted.

Oh, that's if it's a directory with files in it, there's a difference if it's only one file, then there are only TWO "I accept" clickings, and the screen still goes entirely black, like there's a power failure that ensues due to erasing a 6 K file.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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Oh, can someone tell me what the equivalent to the "startup-sequence" is in windows? Way too many programs are started on start up. I don't know how to get rid of them.

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Le Stu. ..

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> Oh, can someone tell me what the equivalent to the "startup-sequence" is in
> windows? Way too many programs are started on start up. I don't know how to
> get rid of them.

You will need to press the windows button and type 'MSCONFIG' into the search box. Move to 'startup' tab.

Seemples.

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, megol wrote:
> On Sunday, Oct 25, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> <Shit I cant be bothered to read>
>
> You are the problem. And also this forum isn't about fuck-ups ranting about
> things they don't understand.
>

you must be new here

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On Tuesday, Oct 27, 2009, Le Stu wrote:
> On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > Oh, can someone tell me what the equivalent to the "startup-sequence" is in
> > windows? Way too many programs are started on start up. I don't know how to
> > get rid of them.
>
> You will need to press the windows button and type 'MSCONFIG' into the
> search box. Move to 'startup' tab.
>
> Seemples.
>

Well, that's one system completely hosed. Your friend is going to fucking love you when you bring back her rig.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, XraalE wrote:

> And I thought Atheist spent his time hanging around with _____ ________ and
> rocket scientists.



(With edit) funny you should say that.

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Monday, Oct 26, 2009, XraalE wrote:
>
> > And I thought Atheist spent his time hanging around with _____ ________ and
> > rocket scientists.
>
>
>
> (With edit) funny you should say that.
>

I was going to say something myself.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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Un-fucking-believable..... was not easy finding "shut-down" in Vista!!!!!!!

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> Un-fucking-believable..... was not easy finding "shut-down" in Vista!!!!!!!


Vista (+Mac (what a snow jobs)) and most "modern"(sic) OSs are reduced to:


A D: On display? I had to go down to the cellar.
Official: that's the display department.
A D: with a torch!
O: the lights were probably out.
A D: so were the stairs.
O: but you did see the notice, didn't you?
A D: Oh yes, it was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign outside the door saying "beware of the LEOPARD!" Ever thought about going into advertising?

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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Mac OS X version 10.5...... Needs NINE GIGABYTES OF HD SPACE!??!?!?!!?!?! (From Wikipedia.)

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> Mac OS X version 10.5...... Needs NINE GIGABYTES OF HD SPACE!??!?!?!!?!?!
> (From Wikipedia.)


Oh, I missed the "AT LEAST"!

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> Un-fucking-believable..... was not easy finding "shut-down" in Vista!!!!!!!
>

start menu -> shutdown, same place it's been for almost 15 years

How can you miss it? it's got a big power button icon.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

Win-snooze xp needs:
1.5 Gigs
1.8 for SP2
900 MB for SP3
equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO KNOWS?????

This is sad and most pathetic.


AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
>
> Win-snooze xp needs:
> 1.5 Gigs
> 1.8 for SP2
> 900 MB for SP3
> equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO
> HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you
> have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's
> copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO
> KNOWS?????
>
> This is sad and most pathetic.
>
>
> AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!


AND, although it's not part of MICRO-SHAFTERS OS, it HAS to be present, what about drivers..... and their updated revisions???? Add another 100 to 400 Megs???

Computers, and micro-softee are ONE BIG MESS.

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
>
> Win-snooze xp needs:
> 1.5 Gigs
> 1.8 for SP2
> 900 MB for SP3
> equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO
> HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you
> have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's
> copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO
> KNOWS?????
>
> This is sad and most pathetic.
>
>
> AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!

Prove it. How much HD space does it take AOS to do all the same things, have all the same drivers, etc.

Do you have any idea how many drivers windows comes with?

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Jungle Bunny wrote:
> On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
> >
> > Win-snooze xp needs:
> > 1.5 Gigs
> > 1.8 for SP2
> > 900 MB for SP3
> > equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO
> > HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you
> > have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's
> > copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO
> > KNOWS?????
> >
> > This is sad and most pathetic.
> >
> >
> > AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!
>
> Prove it.

Well, for starters, you are NOT FORCED TO use virtual ram. This uses 5 GIGABYTES of hard drive space ALONE on win-dos.

> How much HD space does it take AOS to do all the same things,

There's no sleep mode, so you don't need extra HD space (up to 3.4 gigabytes)....

> have all the same drivers, etc.

Amiga OS is lacking many drivers, however, I'm sure that if AOS _did_ have all the drivers, they probably wouldn't ALL be there, using up umpteen megabytes of space. As well, there aren't about a BILLION files as part of the OS. This uses up ridiculous amounts of HD space, if the cluster size is big and the files are minuscule.


> Do you have any idea how many drivers windows comes with?

Some insane amount?

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Le Stu. ..

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Why doesn't quit Workbench work on my A1200!!!!

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Jungle Bunny. #.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Jungle Bunny wrote:
> > On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
> > >
> > > Win-snooze xp needs:
> > > 1.5 Gigs
> > > 1.8 for SP2
> > > 900 MB for SP3
> > > equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO
> > > HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you
> > > have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's
> > > copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO
> > > KNOWS?????
> > >
> > > This is sad and most pathetic.
> > >
> > >
> > > AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!
> >
> > Prove it.
>
> Well, for starters, you are NOT FORCED TO use virtual ram. This uses 5
> GIGABYTES of hard drive space ALONE on win-dos.

Virtual Ram and Swap Files are two separate things. If you want to use a Swap File, you must have enough space on your drive to, you know, actually swap. If you have 3 Gigs of memory but don't have 5 Gigs free on your hard drive, your hard drive is full.

> > How much HD space does it take AOS to do all the same things,
>
> There's no sleep mode, so you don't need extra HD space (up to 3.4
> gigabytes)....

For the comparison, you DO need the extra HD space: The question was "How much HD space does it take AOS to do all the same things?"

Maybe you should compare AOS to Win95.

> > have all the same drivers, etc.
>
> Amiga OS is lacking many drivers, however, I'm sure that if AOS _did_ have
> all the drivers, they probably wouldn't ALL be there, using up umpteen
> megabytes of space.

Why not? they need to be stored somewhere. Might as well just keep them on the Hard Drive. The whole point of plug and play is ease of use. Why would you want to have to find a DVD and respond to a prompt every time you plug in a device? Besides, storage is cheap. 5 gigs is nothing, I have a necklace I wear that holds 16 gigs. 5 Gigs isn't even todays equivalent of a "floppy"

> As well, there aren't about a BILLION files as part of
> the OS. This uses up ridiculous amounts of HD space, if the cluster size is
> big and the files are minuscule.

Hardly takes up any space. the whole OS with all the drivers doesn't even fill my iPod, or my USB necklace, much less my desktop computers HDD.

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On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Jungle Bunny wrote:
> > On Wednesday, Oct 28, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
> > >
> > > Win-snooze xp needs:
> > > 1.5 Gigs
> > > 1.8 for SP2
> > > 900 MB for SP3
> > > equaling 4.2 Gigs, this _however_ over looks the fact that win-dos HAS TO
> > > HAVE the virtual mem running, and that is ~5 more Gigs of HD space when you
> > > have 3 GBs of ram. And, if you use sleep mode, that's ANOTHER 3 Gigs that's
> > > copied over to the HD.... Is the virtual ram copied over too, WHO
> > > KNOWS?????
> > >
> > > This is sad and most pathetic.
> > >
> > >
> > > AOS is CLEARLY, LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of this atrocious SHIT!
> >
> > Prove it.
>
> Well, for starters, you are NOT FORCED TO use virtual ram. This uses 5
> GIGABYTES of hard drive space ALONE on win-dos.
>

OS4 uses Virtual Ram. Swap space is a different thing however as someone else already pointed out.

> > How much HD space does it take AOS to do all the same things,
>
> There's no sleep mode, so you don't need extra HD space (up to 3.4
> gigabytes)....
>

Hold on a second, you said that AOS was ahead of Windows, how can it be if it doesn't offer at least a comparable feature set, or completely lacks some forms of functionality?

> > have all the same drivers, etc.
>
> Amiga OS is lacking many drivers, however, I'm sure that if AOS _did_ have
> all the drivers, they probably wouldn't ALL be there, using up umpteen
> megabytes of space. As well, there aren't about a BILLION files as part of
> the OS. This uses up ridiculous amounts of HD space, if the cluster size is
> big and the files are minuscule.
>

Prove it.

>
> > Do you have any idea how many drivers windows comes with?
>
> Some insane amount?
>

Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14 year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will on the latest and greatest.

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jorkany. jorkany.

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On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific
> models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14
> year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will
> on the latest and greatest.

When was the last time you had to buy a "beta" version of Windows for a specific motherboard?

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On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, jorkany wrote:
> On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> > Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific
> > models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14
> > year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will
> > on the latest and greatest.
>
> When was the last time you had to buy a "beta" version of Windows for a
> specific motherboard?
>

Never, which was exactly my point (sorry if that wasn't clear).

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jorkany. jorkany.

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On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, jorkany wrote:
> > On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> > > Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific
> > > models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14
> > > year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will
> > > on the latest and greatest.
> >
> > When was the last time you had to buy a "beta" version of Windows for a
> > specific motherboard?
> >
>
> Never, which was exactly my point (sorry if that wasn't clear).

I was just putting it out there for emphasis for the reading impaired :D

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notAtheist2. .@..

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> Besides, storage is cheap. 5 gigs is nothing, I have a
> necklace I wear that holds 16 gigs. 5 Gigs isn't even todays equivalent of
> a "floppy"

THIS. It isn't 1985 anymore, or 1994 either. Yes, modern OS's use more HD space than older ones. But consider this: you can go out and buy a 1.5 TERABYTE HD these days for a cost roughly comparable to what a 300 MB drive cost when the A4000 was new.

I can't be bothered to do the math just now, but I expect a modern OS uses a lot smaller percentage of a modern HD than previous - even with the 'large cluster - small file' factor.

Yes, it sure was great you could run an A500 with a full OS from a floppy with 512K of memory. In 1985. Those days are gone, and they're not coming back. Deal with it. Or stick with your legacy hardware and stop complaining.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, jorkany wrote:
> On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> > Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific
> > models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14
> > year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will
> > on the latest and greatest.
>
> When was the last time you had to buy a "beta" version of Windows for a
> specific motherboard?


As far as I'm concerned (from eXPerience), win-dross IS IN beta _still_, wretched piece of shit that it is. And that's after 8 years of "enhancement".

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, notAtheist2 wrote:
> > Besides, storage is cheap. 5 gigs is nothing, I have a
> > necklace I wear that holds 16 gigs. 5 Gigs isn't even todays equivalent of
> > a "floppy"
>
> THIS. It isn't 1985 anymore, or 1994 either. Yes, modern OS's use more HD
> space than older ones. But consider this: you can go out and buy a 1.5
> TERABYTE HD these days for a cost roughly comparable to what a 300 MB drive
> cost when the A4000 was new.
>
> I can't be bothered to do the math just now, but I expect a modern OS uses
> a lot smaller percentage of a modern HD than previous - even with the
> 'large cluster - small file' factor.
>
> Yes, it sure was great you could run an A500 with a full OS from a floppy
> with 512K of memory. In 1985. Those days are gone, and they're not coming
> back. Deal with it. Or stick with your legacy hardware and stop
> complaining.

Stop complaining?

5 BILLION+++ dollars spent on coding, and that's the BEST they could do?

Win-dross is an atrocity... and for 5 billion, you'd figure it could have been entirely in assmbler, too. i.e. _FAST_.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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COMPARE the MIPS that AOS3.x with a 68060 has available and what it does to a 4 core 3.2 GHz DDR3 ram behemoth, and what they can BARELY do.

win-dross DESTROYS performance given them by engineers.

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On Friday, Oct 30, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, jorkany wrote:
> > On Thursday, Oct 29, 2009, . wrote:
> > > Exactamundo. And unlike AmigaOS, which needs specific versions for specific
> > > models, that one copy of Windows XP will install just as easily on a 14
> > > year old PC (assuming disk and ram are of the correct quantity) as it will
> > > on the latest and greatest.
> >
> > When was the last time you had to buy a "beta" version of Windows for a
> > specific motherboard?
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned (from eXPerience), win-dross IS IN beta _still_,
> wretched piece of shit that it is. And that's after 8 years of
> "enhancement".
>

Given your complete lack of competence when it comes to computers, I can safely disregard anything you have to say when it comes to your views on other OS's.

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