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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, sdf wrote:
> remember when Dammy tried to rip off the aros community with his shitty
> laptops? What a loser.


eXfuze me, but I don't recall....

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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Luckily, readership here is probably dropping daily; postings by Dammy will be going up, for 2 more days, anyhow.

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BurgerFlippingBill. Bill@Amiga.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:

Snipped endless drivel

> NOW who's a RAVING LUNATIC???

Nah, even I wouldn't take a cheap shot like that.

But seriously Thierry, take a deep breath and look back at that overly long post of yours.
Do they look like the words of a well adjusted human being?
So much venom, so much use of CAPS for EVERY other FUCKING word, so little sense of logic and reason.

In all honesty, I can't believe you're for real. It's just a trolling act, you like to provoke a reaction, just like Shaun the Bus Arch Troll of old.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, BurgerFlippingBill wrote:
> But seriously Thierry, take a deep breath and look back at that overly long
> post of yours.

Telling it like it is.

> Do they look like the words of a well adjusted human being?

I'm telling it like it is.


> So much venom,

I've seen PLENTY of that for a LLLOOOONNNNGGGGGG time here, _way_ before I got hot pants.

> so much use of CAPS for EVERY other FUCKING word,

It was called 4.

> so little sense of logic and reason.

I am the most logical person here, usually, no, most of the time.

> In all honesty, I can't believe you're for real. It's just a trolling act,


Trolling, or telling it like it is?

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XraalE. moo.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, sdf wrote:
> remember when Dammy tried to rip off the aros community with his shitty
> laptops? What a loser.

You mean he concealed major bugs in the laptops, overpriced them, delivered other than original specifications, took years to get them out, sold them only running Linux for three years, failed to honour warranties, censored Aros.org to remove all criticism of the laptops, and made closed forums so he could feed users excuses and false information about the bugs in them?

If not, then shut the fuck up, dickhead.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, sdf wrote:
> > remember when Dammy tried to rip off the aros community with his shitty
> > laptops? What a loser.
>

I'm speaking of the NG I bought:

> You mean he concealed major bugs in the laptops,

This was the fault of, and I can't stress it enough, IBuM and motoscum.

> overpriced them,

Low production runs equal inflated end-user costs, nothing can be done about that, that doesn't involve losing one's shirt.

> delivered other than original specifications,

Hmmm, were the specs really ever established 100%? I wouldn't say so.

> took years to get them out,

Errr, yeah, that of course wouldn't have anything to do with suffering from attempting to roll out a new computer line with a shoestring budget, nope, uh-uh.

Meanwhile, we all know that stolen money funded Genesi's foray into custom HW production.

> sold them only running Linux for three years,

Hey, takes a while to code a new OS, ask the publishers of Haiku, Linux, MOS....

> failed to honour warranties,

I guess there's no way to make MAI and IBuM and motoscum to pay up on their flawed products.

> censored Aros.org

Wouldn't know what goes on there.

> to remove all criticism of the laptops,

You mean stop the trolling? Well, it eventually was overcome, but by a new website being established, so all is good.

> and made closed forums

That was to stop the trolling, silly boy.

> so he could feed users excuses and false information about the bugs in them?

Minor bugs that took a bit of time to get rid of? You mean that other companies NEVER EVER experience bugs, like the zune????

>
> If not, then shut the fuck up, dickhead.


I can be as long winded as you are too, dickhead.

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, sdf wrote:
> remember when Dammy tried to rip off the aros community with his shitty
> laptops? What a loser.

Wrong, but you already knew that.

Dammy

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GK. malibannNOSPAM@t-online.de.

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@ Dammy

You know it could have happen ... I doesn't think AInc. and Hyperion are partners, I just think AInc got something in return and no everyone can go his own way ... but this is just a detail.

I'm not suprised they banned you at AW, they totally adore Hyperion because Hyperion is the one that brought them AOS4. If AInc would have published a AOS4 version together with a computer from ACK a bit newer, more colors (stolen code from Hyperion) the crowd would have become AInc believers. ( I knew there wouldn't have been anything from ACK but just imagine what would have happened to all the loayal Hyperion fanboys )
When it comes too Hyperion they are unbelievable naive fanboys, we all know Hyperion wants to sell AOS4, we all accept they would never say anything bad about their own product. But this fanboays goes around and tell stupid ideas how great Hyperion is:

Helgis: had the idea Hyperion might help AROS ....
Someone: thought Hyperione might helo other tgetting their money from AInc ...
AmigaHeretic: Thinks Hyperion could would free the AOS3.1 ROMs ...
AmigaHeretic: Though it would be a great idea to set op a bounty and give Hyperion some x86 board for an AOS4.x port

And most of the directly believes in every little thing someone of Hyperion wrote on AW. Not only believeing, they makes it bigger ...








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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:

> And most of the directly believes in every little thing someone of Hyperion
> wrote on AW. Not only believeing, they makes it bigger ...



That's because, haven't you heard? HYPERION RULES!



But seriously, expect great things, soon. Prognosticating, I'd say 1st quarter 2010.


I don't know what, but I think it's a dual core desktop (think, SMP enabled OS, while you're at it).


Really what would be best is the ARM 1.5 GHz dual core netbook, toooooo cool for words, that would be!!!

That way, it's EASILY brought around to other people's houses and shopping centres to SHOW OFF HOW COOL IT IS, because it's TOO COOL FOR WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!



So, have you SUCKED IT UP! yet? (And I ain't talking about eXfuze.)

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GK. malibannNOSPAM@t-online.de.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:
>
> > And most of the directly believes in every little thing someone of Hyperion
> > wrote on AW. Not only believeing, they makes it bigger ...
>
> That's because, haven't you heard? HYPERION RULES!

No i neaver heard, I don't knwo what does they rule, why does they rule and why.


> But seriously, expect great things, soon.
> Prognosticating, I'd say 1st quarter 2010.

AOS4 hosted on Linux ?
AOS4 as demoversion under PearPC ?
AOS4, bought by Fridens GmbH followed by a Hyperion Bancrupty ?


> I don't know what, but I think it's a dual core desktop

Hyperion nebver made hardware.

>(think, SMP enables OS, while you're at it).

As Linux hosted version maybe ...


> Really what would be best is the ARM 1.5 GHz dual core
> netbook, toooooo cool for words, that would be!!!

To cool to be possible for Hyperion.


> That way, it's EASILY brought around to other people's houses and
> shopping centres

reminds my to the last AA2. show, Bill showed something outside the buildings because they didn't had an booth there.
>
> So, have you SUCKED IT UP! yet?

What ? Something you don't know, something like SMP you can have for free on Linux ?

>(And I ain't talking about eXfuze.)

Yes most of us don't know what you are talking about, maybe a Hyperion constructed ARM driven multi-blittered Natami2.0

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furfagbareback. furfagbareback6534@hormail.com.

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@dfgdhf

you have now earned yourself a ban mister, 2000 days ban!!! we will see who is laugthing in the end!

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:
> @ Dammy
>
> You know it could have happen ... I doesn't think AInc. and Hyperion are
> partners, I just think AInc got something in return and no everyone can go
> his own way ... but this is just a detail.

I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not get royalty payments out of this. They are in this together, you want to call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.

They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys at Hyperion will froth at the mouth over that statement, but it's the truth.

Dammy

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BunnyMoo. nkflkvnkdfvnkdfvnkdfvnfkv.

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Do any of you people even read FFB's posts? He generally supports Hyperion yeah (see any lawsuit threads for instance), but he certainly has butted heads in public on the site with Rogue and HyperionMP. He can't be called a blind supporter of them by anyone paying even half attention. He even seems quite open to allowing x86 threads that annoy the crap out of Hyperion. He even often defends those who ask for x86.

He's also certainly no friend of eXec, the one who posted the DDS joke. And FFB did not let the post entirely go, he basically said "that better be a joke".

I really doubt there is any conspiracy at work here.

The dude made a judgement call is my best guess. Folks will have differing opinions on that. Big whoop.

Dammy, use the fucking appeal process! Or is it that you actually see more value in playing a martyr to play up getting away with your declared hatred of Hyperion more? Bottom line, we all know you did not post what you did for any positive purpose. But who knows, you might actually get your ban lifted if you appeal. But I suspect that the last thing you actually want at this point.

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XraalE. moo.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> get royalty payments out of this. They are in this together, you want to
> call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.
>
> They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> at Hyperion will froth at the mouth over that statement, but it's the
> truth.

Let them froth. Whatever the truth of the matter, they'll find out the hard way, and whatever it is they're sure not to like it. Agreements have been reached, concessions have been made, and the fanboy's interests are sure not to have been part of it. They never are.

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, XraalE wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> > I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> > no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> > get royalty payments out of this. They are in this together, you want to
> > call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> > original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> > the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.
> >
> > They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> > at Hyperion will froth at the mouth over that statement, but it's the
> > truth.
>
> Let them froth. Whatever the truth of the matter, they'll find out the hard
> way, and whatever it is they're sure not to like it. Agreements have been
> reached, concessions have been made, and the fanboy's interests are sure
> not to have been part of it. They never are.

Even worse, it's about money.

Dammy

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:
> > @ Dammy
> >
> > You know it could have happen ... I doesn't think AInc. and Hyperion are
> > partners, I just think AInc got something in return and no everyone can go
> > his own way ... but this is just a detail.
>
> I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> get royalty payments out of this.


Hope Amiga Inc. got .05 on the dollar. HA HA HA!!!

> They are in this together, you want to
> call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.

Except, Hyperion has the right of BOTH, HW chooser, and OS development, _unlimited_, AND nothing keeps them from even making _their own HW_ should they be able to raise the capital. They are the whole kit-and-kaboodle, bowl of wax, they got the pie, etc. etc.


Amiga Inc. is a non-functional vestigial organ, which they've practically been since day one; Jan 1, 2000.


They went against the community, they paid the price, unfortunately it cost us BIG TIME as well.


> They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> at Hyperion will froth at the mouth

As long as they wear their Depends.... oh, wait, you're insulting Hyperion.... screw you.

> over that statement, but it's the
> truth.

But, but, but, Amiga Inc. don't have offices, or a phone number, and a black hole e-mail address. They need each other? You mean they Depends on each other???

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HowSadThisThreadIs. ssdsdsd.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:

> I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> get royalty payments out of this. They are in this together, you want to
> call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.
>
> They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> at Hyperion will froth at the mouth over that statement, but it's the
> truth.
>
> Dammy
>

Equally logical at a minimum but likely more so in fact due to Pentti being dead and the landlord winning a huge judgement recently was a one-time payment from Hyperion. Add to the mix that they have actually been paying Jaime to do something and seem to want him to renew his employment contract. For all that they much more likely need a lump sum to keep going, not the piddly payments royalties would bring from AOS sales. In that case there would not be a partnership. Bottom line is you can't declare it is a partnership truthfully, because to do so you need some proof. All you have is one of several THEORIES.

You also can't say Hyperion operates at a financial loss since you have no access to their balance sheet. Your guess might very well be true, but they are at best guesses, possibly educated to a *degree*. But declaring that they are partners is a unfair bullshit without proof. You got called on that after they let you go on it a few times out of pity and sympathy for you (a part you are trying to ignore - BIG SURPRISE). Eventually somebody said "enough already".

Add to the mix you are an Exfuze salesman who says he hates Hyperion, at a minimum you are not going to be easily viewed as the wronged neutral even-handed type. Not by anyone reasonable anyway.

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Gregg. ..

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> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, HowSadThisThreadIs wrote:

<snip>

> Add to the mix you are an Exfuze salesman

Glad to see dammy is still doing well with Exfuze; perhpas you can help update some of the information here :

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/general/24688.shtml

Gregg

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GK. malibannnospam@t-online.de.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:

> I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion,

ACK !

> but there is
> no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> get royalty payments out of this.

If they still have to do royalty payments, they would be stupid. When I saw parts of the first contract (Hyperion + AInc + Eyetech) I thought Hyperion must be crazy to accept it, later I saw Hyperion never want to pay their royalties so the way they acted made sense ...

I thought Hyperion payed a lot of the money they owned Amiga Inc. to reach the settlement and got away with everything they pratically had.

> They are in this together, you want to
> call their arrangement by another name,
> go for it.

If they still have to pay royalties for new AOS4 versions I would call it a partnership, but nothing could proofe it. Amiga Inc. stays calm, maybe this is an evidence for beeing partners.
Last chenages on Hyperion's Web side dated back October 17, 2009
The last change on Amiga Inc's Web side dated back October 22, 2009
http://amiga.com/index.php?n=mobile

So Amiga Inc. ist still alive but staying calm about the settlement ...

> Dammy

It was hard to see what AInc or Hyperion really wants during the lawsuits.

AInc.:
said they wanted tha AOS4 code, I believe they just wanted to have their money.

Hyperion:
said they want to have the rights on everything Amiga, I think they wanted to pay less and choose their hardware partners without asking Amiga Inc. I believe

There was already a war going on between Amiga Inc. and Hyperion 1-2 years before the lawsuits started, Hyperion could not port their OS to any other hardware after Eyetech was gone and Amiga Inc. did not grant any licences, this feels like they where blackmailing each other. After Hyperion chosed anew hardware partner without licence from AInc they cancelled the contract ...

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> > On Monday, Nov 2, 2009, GK wrote:
> > > @ Dammy
> > >
> > > You know it could have happen ... I doesn't think AInc. and Hyperion are
> > > partners, I just think AInc got something in return and no everyone can go
> > > his own way ... but this is just a detail.
> >
> > I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> > no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> > get royalty payments out of this.
>
>
> Hope Amiga Inc. got .05 on the dollar. HA HA HA!!!
>
> > They are in this together, you want to
> > call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> > original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> > the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.
>
> Except, Hyperion has the right of BOTH, HW chooser, and OS development,
> _unlimited_, AND nothing keeps them from even making _their own HW_ should
> they be able to raise the capital. They are the whole kit-and-kaboodle,
> bowl of wax, they got the pie, etc. etc.

That's obvious.

>
> Amiga Inc. is a non-functional vestigial organ, which they've practically
> been since day one; Jan 1, 2000.

They did try, but failed.

> They went against the community, they paid the price, unfortunately it cost
> us BIG TIME as well.

No, they listen to you all about PPC and then paid the price.

>
> > They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> > at Hyperion will froth at the mouth
>
> As long as they wear their Depends.... oh, wait, you're insulting
> Hyperion.... screw you.

My error, should have read "of" and not "at." I highly doubt that Hyperion really cares what CPU they are using, it's about making money. Fanboys who are out there foaming at the mouth are not worried about how Hyperion will make money on PPC, they just want their beliefs validated.

> > over that statement, but it's the
> > truth.
>
> But, but, but, Amiga Inc. don't have offices, or a phone number, and a
> black hole e-mail address. They need each other? You mean they Depends on
> each other???

AI is a IP company, so cell phone and mailing address is enough. They can go run to Kinkos for receiving and sending FAXs.

Dammy

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, HowSadThisThreadIs wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
>
> > I'm sure AI is not sharing any financial losses by Hyperion, but there is
> > no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> > get royalty payments out of this. They are in this together, you want to
> > call their arrangement by another name, go for it. Take a look at the
> > original contracts, it's all about the three (now two) of them reinventing
> > the "Amiga" with each full filling their separate functions.
> >
> > They had a settlement because they need each other. I'm sure the fanboys
> > at Hyperion will froth at the mouth over that statement, but it's the
> > truth.
> >
> > Dammy
> >
>
> Equally logical at a minimum but likely more so in fact due to Pentti being
> dead and the landlord winning a huge judgement recently was a one-time
> payment from Hyperion. Add to the mix that they have actually been paying
> Jaime to do something and seem to want him to renew his employment
> contract. For all that they much more likely need a lump sum to keep
> going, not the piddly payments royalties would bring from AOS sales.

Aren't you pulling this out of your ass? Show me one place in any of the previous contracts between AI and Hyperion where it's lump sum agreement with cash and carry? Show me where the last contact is null and voided by both parties? I highly doubt that Hyperion could pay for such a lump sum that AI would be demanding. Now shares in Hyperion, could be a real option but we know AI had to get something out of this long term, what is the question.

In
> that case there would not be a partnership. Bottom line is you can't
> declare it is a partnership truthfully, because to do so you need some
> proof. All you have is one of several THEORIES.

There are two signed contracts posted on Justia, one of them as far as anyone else knows is still valid with the settlement. Where is your proof that the last contract was voided by both parties? AI will just ignore the land lord's judgement against them, like they always do and it depends who signed the contracts and last agreement with the landlord if they made a personal commitment to repay it or not.

>
> You also can't say Hyperion operates at a financial loss since you have no
> access to their balance sheet. Your guess might very well be true, but
> they are at best guesses, possibly educated to a *degree*. But declaring
> that they are partners is a unfair bullshit without proof. You got called
> on that after they let you go on it a few times out of pity and sympathy
> for you (a part you are trying to ignore - BIG SURPRISE). Eventually
> somebody said "enough already".

I didn't state (at least I do not remember stating it like that) that Hyperion IS operating in the negative and made that pretty plain that I doubt AI would share any losses of Hyperion, just get paid their royalty from Hyperion. AI just finished WORKING with Hyperion on the settlement, Hyperion just got unleashed in this deal with AI. Shouldn't you all be celebrating AI's wisdom to allow Hyperion to go off the tether? Hell no! Let's talk about criminal acts against AI instead!

> Add to the mix you are an Exfuze salesman who says he hates Hyperion, at a
> minimum you are not going to be easily viewed as the wronged neutral
> even-handed type. Not by anyone reasonable anyway.

What, you all need to STFU about AI and move on is being negative towards Hyperion? How the hell is the rant fest against AI going to help Hyperion's sales? Think for a minute, even though it might be difficult and hurt for a few minutes, would bashing AI be apart of Hyperion's future PR campaign? No? Because it won't HELP THEM MAKE SALES.

If I hated Hyperion, I'd be there on AWN making more hate towards AI because that type of negative emotion is going to hurt Hyperion in the long run.

Dammy

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Yamd. Yamd@thenostrodomus.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:

> Aren't you pulling this out of your ass? Show me one place in any of the
> previous contracts

Do you have proof that anything in the previous contracts is in force at this point with the new settlement that has been reached? I'm guessing the answer is no, that you have no proof that anything from previous contracts is in force. In fact, usually a settlement's agreements are laid out in full in the settlement document. Thats to avoid confusion. You don't want to normally refer to previous documents that were instrumental in causing the dispute/lawsuit in the first place.

Bottom line, you are guessing Mr. Exfuze. It dosen't matter if you are the most logical at a guess or not, its still a bloody guess.


> There are two signed contracts posted on Justia, one of them as far as
> anyone else knows is still valid with the settlement.

There is ZERO evidence of that. It would be a guess EITHER way.

>Where is your proof
> that the last contract was voided by both parties?

Where is your proof that its still in effect?

> What, you all need to STFU about AI and move on is being negative towards
> Hyperion?

No if anyone, you need to "STFU" stating your guesses as fact.

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dammy. damocles@thenostromo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, Yamd wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
>
> > Aren't you pulling this out of your ass? Show me one place in any of the
> > previous contracts
>
> Do you have proof that anything in the previous contracts is in force at
> this point with the new settlement that has been reached? I'm guessing the
> answer is no, that you have no proof that anything from previous contracts
> is in force. In fact, usually a settlement's agreements are laid out in
> full in the settlement document. Thats to avoid confusion. You don't want
> to normally refer to previous documents that were instrumental in causing
> the dispute/lawsuit in the first place.
>
> Bottom line, you are guessing Mr. Exfuze. It dosen't matter if you are the
> most logical at a guess or not, its still a bloody guess.

Prove the last contract is no longer in effect, I'll shut up then.

>
> > There are two signed contracts posted on Justia, one of them as far as
> > anyone else knows is still valid with the settlement.
>
> There is ZERO evidence of that. It would be a guess EITHER way

There is ZERO evidence it isn't either.
.
>
> >Where is your proof
> > that the last contract was voided by both parties?
>
> Where is your proof that its still in effect?

Why wouldn't it be?

> > What, you all need to STFU about AI and move on is being negative towards
> > Hyperion?
>
> No if anyone, you need to "STFU" stating your guesses as fact.

Feel free to prove me wrong then.

Dammy

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jiijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijjijijijijijijijiji. jijijijijijiijjijijijijijijijijijjijijijijijjijiij.

(193.200.150.152) [193.200.150.152]
On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:

>
> Prove the last contract is no longer in effect, I'll shut up then.
>

I don't care about you needing to shut up. You don't have to be silent. Just be honest when you open your trap or post stuff. In Dammy's individual opinion Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion must be partners post settlement. Its not a proven fact. You got caught trying to turn your opinion into an active urban legend. Shame on you Mr. Exfuze.


>
> Feel free to prove me wrong then.
>

You are the one leveling a claim with no proof. That after an announced settlement to a lawsuit the two parties are in an active business partnership. The burden of proof is on you. Besides which I don't say they are not in partnership. I don't know either way. I do know you don't really know either way either though. So what I needed to prove I proved, that you tried to pass your guess/opinion as fact multiple times. Tsk tsk.

Again, when you level a claim, the burden of proof is on *you*. And you've admitted you can't prove what you claimed.

Next time state an opinion as an opinion.

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pixie. ncosta@esec.pt.

(83.132.63.41) [83.132.63.41]
On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, jiijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijjijijijijijijijiji wrote:
>
> I don't care about you needing to shut up. You don't have to be silent.
> Just be honest when you open your trap or post stuff. In Dammy's
> individual opinion Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion must be partners post
> settlement. Its not a proven fact. You got caught trying to turn your
> opinion into an active urban legend. Shame on you Mr. Exfuze.
>
>
> You are the one leveling a claim with no proof. That after an announced
> settlement to a lawsuit the two parties are in an active business
> partnership. The burden of proof is on you. Besides which I don't say
> they are not in partnership. I don't know either way. I do know you don't
> really know either way either though. So what I needed to prove I proved,
> that you tried to pass your guess/opinion as fact multiple times. Tsk
> tsk.
>
> Again, when you level a claim, the burden of proof is on *you*. And you've
> admitted you can't prove what you claimed.
>
> Next time state an opinion as an opinion.


Who does settlements? We know, only the strongest enemies...

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Alkis Tsapanidis. ezyyaat@nottingham.ac.uk.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, Yamd wrote:
> > On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> >
> > > Aren't you pulling this out of your ass? Show me one place in any of the
> > > previous contracts
> >
> > Do you have proof that anything in the previous contracts is in force at
> > this point with the new settlement that has been reached? I'm guessing the
> > answer is no, that you have no proof that anything from previous contracts
> > is in force. In fact, usually a settlement's agreements are laid out in
> > full in the settlement document. Thats to avoid confusion. You don't want
> > to normally refer to previous documents that were instrumental in causing
> > the dispute/lawsuit in the first place.
> >
> > Bottom line, you are guessing Mr. Exfuze. It dosen't matter if you are the
> > most logical at a guess or not, its still a bloody guess.
>
> Prove the last contract is no longer in effect, I'll shut up then.

Well, I can't prove it and neither can you prove the opposite. However, Hyperion has stated they have an unlimited licence to use OS3.1 for any purpose, not limited to OS4 development, and even to resell it on its own. No such rights were given to them in the previous contract, so either they have a new agreement that voids the previous one or at least augments it. So, unless if Hyperion is lying in forums about something this big, right after they have a settlement with a company that is actually reading those forums, I think there's a good case against the previous agreement being active. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to lie about this so close to the settlement.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

(64.180.70.121) [64.180.70.121]
On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, GK wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> > but there is
> > no logical explanation for licensing long term IP use by Hyperion and not
> > get royalty payments out of this.
>
> If they still have to do royalty payments, they would be stupid. When I saw
> parts of the first contract (Hyperion + AInc + Eyetech) I thought Hyperion
> must be crazy to accept it, later I saw Hyperion never want to pay their
> royalties so the way they acted made sense ...

Pay royalties to WHO? Amiga Inc. (Washington) doesn't exist.

> > They are in this together, you want to
> > call their arrangement by another name,
> > go for it.
>
> If they still have to pay royalties for new AOS4 versions I would call it a
> partnership, but nothing could proofe it. Amiga Inc. stays calm, maybe this
> is an evidence for beeing partners.
> Last chenages on Hyperion's Web side dated back October 17, 2009
> The last change on Amiga Inc's Web side dated back October 22, 2009
> http://amiga.com/index.php?n=mobile
>
> So Amiga Inc. ist still alive but staying calm about the settlement ...


This calls for an O.M.G.!


Amiga STInc. is making money by REDIRECTING WEB CLICKS from their "website"'s MOBILE NEWS link (which has NOTHING TO DO with AMIGA INC. products) to "blogs.zdnet.com".... what an income stream this must be, too! Bill McEwen can buy a small pepperoni pizza once a month, I guess. And he'll eat it by candle light, if he can afford a candle, well, an overhead street light is free, at least.


> > Dammy
>
> It was hard to see what AInc or Hyperion really wants during the lawsuits.

Well then, you _must_ be stupid.


> AInc.:
> said they wanted tha AOS4 code, I believe they just wanted to have their
> money.

Money, or AOS4 that they could SELL for money...... YEAH RIGHT! They don't have TWO programmers, one's that could actually continue with the programming.


> Hyperion:
> said they want to have the rights on everything Amiga, I think they wanted
> to pay less and choose their hardware partners without asking Amiga Inc. I
> believe


Hello, is anyone upstairs awake? No?, instead you choose to _deliberately_ twist the truth.... Which is, Amiga Inc. went bankrupt, therefore, the contract calls for, "all IP, etc. etc." going to Hyperion at that point. Meanwhile, some scamming, paper shuffling on the USA side made a NEW "Amiga Inc." (same as the OLD Amiga Inc.), _however_, a contract event was triggered, that being, they went BANKRUPT and EVERYTHING _had_ to be handed over to Hyperion but Amiga Inc. wouldn't acquiesce. Too bad Amiga tried to do the dance, but didn't see the missing floorboard.


> There was already a war going on between Amiga Inc. and Hyperion 1-2 years
> before the lawsuits started, Hyperion could not port their OS to any other
> hardware after Eyetech was gone and Amiga Inc. did not grant any licences,
> this feels like they where blackmailing each other. After Hyperion chosed
> anew hardware partner without licence from AInc they cancelled the contract
> ...

That sounds about right. I _think_ that's what was going on too.

I mean, until someone actually _spells it out_ as to all that was happening, truly.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
> > They went against the community, they paid the price, unfortunately it cost
> > us BIG TIME as well.
>
> No, they listen to you all about PPC and then paid the price.

It was a good, and only available path at the time.

> I highly doubt that Hyperion
> really cares what CPU they are using, it's about making money.

Oh, of course it is, but PPC _is_ better than that rat's maze twisted up x86 mess. It is currently stalled in the continuation of development, however, as the producers of the chips are VERY reluctant to make it feasible to make a _functional_ motherboard with the CPUs they make, nothing's available. It's not cheap or easy to do.

And yet they expect sales of millions of them!

They want to become a player? They should team up with Hyperion Entertainment, make them in batches of 1,000. Minimum spec, 2.2 GHz dual core WITH Altivec and support 4 4 gigs of ram on the motherboard.


Since 68K has been abandoned (WRONGFULLY), ARM may be the only candidate left..... and you know what?

2 GHz and dual core _is_ enough 4 AOS to SHINE!!!!!!!!

Even 4 years from now, that WILL be adequate computing power.

> Fanboys who
> are out there foaming at the mouth are not worried about how Hyperion will
> make money on PPC, they just want their beliefs validated.

_Not_ a belief..... AmigaOS can go toe-to-toe with EVERY OS out there and finish MEGAmeters ahead! They're all shit, Haiku(BeOS) being closest behind, but yet far, far, FAR, behind, then NeXT further still.


> > But, but, but, Amiga Inc. don't have offices, or a phone number, and a
> > black hole e-mail address. They need each other? You mean they Depends on
> > each other???
>
> They can go run to Kinkos for receiving and sending FAXs.

LOL.

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Atheist2. nofudge@yahoo.com.

(64.180.70.121) [64.180.70.121]
On Wednesday, Nov 4, 2009, Atheist2 wrote:
>
> It was a good, and only available path at the time.
>
> Oh, of course it is, but PPC _is_ better than that rat's maze twisted up
> x86 mess. It is currently stalled in the continuation of development,
> however, as the producers of the chips are VERY reluctant to make it
> feasible to make a _functional_ motherboard with the CPUs they make,
> nothing's available. It's not cheap or easy to do.
>
> And yet they expect sales of millions of them!
>
> They want to become a player? They should team up with Hyperion
> Entertainment, make them in batches of 1,000. Minimum spec, 2.2 GHz dual
> core WITH Altivec and support 4 4 gigs of ram on the motherboard.
>
> Since 68K has been abandoned (WRONGFULLY), ARM may be the only candidate
> left..... and you know what?
>
> 2 GHz and dual core _is_ enough 4 AOS to SHINE!!!!!!!!
>
> Even 4 years from now, that WILL be adequate computing power.
>
> _Not_ a belief..... AmigaOS can go toe-to-toe with EVERY OS out there and
> finish MEGAmeters ahead! They're all shit, Haiku(BeOS) being closest
> behind, but yet far, far, FAR, behind, then NeXT further still.
>
>
> LOL.


Oh and, iWin! ;-) :-D


P W N D !

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GK. malibannnospam@t-online.de.

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On Tuesday, Nov 3, 2009, dammy wrote:
> Show me one place in any of the
> previous contracts between AI and
> Hyperion where it's lump sum agreement
> with cash and carry?

Best point against my 'here is a money now everyone could go his own way' Idea
No one not AInc. not Hyperion have ever had cache.

> Dammy

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