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Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone

Direct link to this message	Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone c64. c64@amiga.com. (119.12.235.168) [119.12.235.168]
	It had to happen.... http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/11/14/0325245/Commodore-64-Runs-Again-On-the-iPhone http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/de-glitched-the-c64s-up-and-running-again/
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone zee. z@z.z. (67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, c64 wrote: > > It had to happen.... > > > > http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/11/14/0325245/Commodore-64-Runs-Again-On-the-iPhone > > > > http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/de-glitched-the-c64s-up-and-running-again/ I love how Apple is so fucking paranoid about the phone they let people use* that they won't allow a 25+ year old implementation of BASIC to run inside an emulator (which, if anyone at apple understood anything about anything, they'd realize was utterly agnostic to the host system). *=no matter what you paid for it, your iPhone does not belong to you, it is the property of Apple, only suitable for you to use as they allow.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone XraalE. moo. (82.40.25.245) 82-40-25-245.cable.ubr04.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, zee wrote: > On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, c64 wrote: > > > > It had to happen.... > > > > > > > > http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/11/14/0325245/Commodore-64-Runs-Again-On-the-iPhone > > > > > > > > http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/de-glitched-the-c64s-up-and-running-again/ > > I love how Apple is so fucking paranoid about the phone they let people *> use that they won't allow a 25+ year old implementation of BASIC to run > inside an emulator (which, if anyone at apple understood anything about > anything, they'd realize was utterly agnostic to the host system). > > > =no matter what you paid for it, your iPhone does not belong to you, it is* > the property of Apple, only suitable for you to use as they allow. No doubt some Apple enthusiast will come along and lecture us on how that's such a Great Thing (TM). Anon? Bernie? Come on, show us how stupid you are.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone GK. malibannNOSPAM@t-online.de. (79.216.171.192) [79.216.171.192]
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, zee wrote: > they won't allow a 25+ year old implementation of BASIC to run > inside an emulator (which, if anyone at apple understood anything about > anything, they'd realize was utterly agnostic to the host system). Simple, every software for the iPhone should be bought from iTunes, a C64 Emulator with the possibility to get application by EMail or out of the Web without the Apple shop thats against Apples interests. Remainder: The iPhone is not free and it is not open ...
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone XraalE. moo. (82.40.25.245) 82-40-25-245.cable.ubr04.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, GK wrote: > On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, zee wrote: > > they won't allow a 25+ year old implementation of BASIC to run > > inside an emulator (which, if anyone at apple understood anything about > > anything, they'd realize was utterly agnostic to the host system). > > Simple, every software for the iPhone should be bought from iTunes, a C64 > Emulator with the possibility to get application by EMail or out of the Web > without the Apple shop thats against Apples interests. > > Remainder: The iPhone is not free and it is not open ... See many C64 applications that could surf the web or email? And anyway, "utterly agnostic" means just that - an emulator that doesn't have any access to the iPhones's internet capabilities. Somehow I suspect that the mere thought of allowing people to do what they want with their own possessions painfully tightens the scrotums of Apple executives so much they cant use their fifteen foot jacuzzis. Maybe if they could charge a dollar for every C64 game you downloaded... This is probably why jailbreaking the iPods and iPhones is becoming so popular.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone zee. z@z.z. (67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, XraalE wrote: > Somehow I suspect that the mere thought of allowing people to do what they > want with their own possessions painfully tightens the scrotums of Apple > executives so much they cant use their fifteen foot jacuzzis. Maybe if they > could charge a dollar for every C64 game you downloaded... This is probably > why jailbreaking the iPods and iPhones is becoming so popular. iPhones don't belong to the people who have them. They're Apple's property, and consequently Apple gets to treat iPhone users as potential pirates and thieves.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone XraalE. moo. (82.40.25.245) 82-40-25-245.cable.ubr04.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, zee wrote: > On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, XraalE wrote: > > > Somehow I suspect that the mere thought of allowing people to do what they > > want with their own possessions painfully tightens the scrotums of Apple > > executives so much they cant use their fifteen foot jacuzzis. Maybe if they > > could charge a dollar for every C64 game you downloaded... This is probably > > why jailbreaking the iPods and iPhones is becoming so popular. > > iPhones don't belong to the people who have them. They're Apple's > property, and consequently Apple gets to treat iPhone users as potential > pirates and thieves. Anyone who buys into Apple is a possibly a fool. Anyone who doesn't immediately crack the hardware and reassert their rights of ownership is definitely a fool. Marx believed that possession was theft: I don't.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone zee. z@z.z. (67.8.82.95) 95.82.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, XraalE wrote: > Anyone who buys into Apple is a possibly a fool. Anyone who doesn't > immediately crack the hardware and reassert their rights of ownership is > definitely a fool. Marx believed that possession was theft: I don't. Oh absolutely. I'm with you 100% here. The "big brother" in the Macintosh 1984 commercial /is/ Steve Jobs.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone Don Cox. lkkljkl. (86.30.11.220) [86.30.11.220]
	On Saturday, Nov 14, 2009, XraalE wrote: > > Anyone who buys into Apple is a possibly a fool. Anyone who doesn't > immediately crack the hardware and reassert their rights of ownership is > definitely a fool. Marx believed that possession was theft: I don't. > It was Proudhon who said "Property is theft". Proudhon was an anarchist, not a Marxist. (But as Johnson said, "Sir, there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea." ) In the UK, the ordinary land line phones used to belong to the GPO, and were only rented to subscribers. This ended when the telecoms section of the Post Office was denationalised. But it does set a precedent, as does the licensing (rather than sale) of most software. I think Apple are partly being control freaks, but OTOH they are right to try very hard to prevent a malware plague developing on their phones as it has on Windows PCs.
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Direct link to this message	Re: Commodore 64 Runs Again On the iPhone AnAmigan. anamigan@home.org. (24.207.50.203) h24-207-50-203.dlt.dccnet.com
	Well, I bought an 3GS after a couple of years of running a pay as you go mostly featureless hunk of tin. Why the 3GS? I didn't want to wait for androids' debut on hundreds of models of competing hardware, so far there are several models but not with the range of options that I want and as I've found from my techie friend who embodies the various open/free/self-directed arguments in his purchase of an android based smart phone, it has its problems. I was there for the USRobotics modem demise against the 100's of the other protocol manufacturers who made the transition from 2400 to 14.4 painless and more or less instantaneous which in turn led to a great many changes in the online landscape. So I know the story already, choice will win but over time, it's not a lock right now. And yes there is absolutely no argument with the feature list that comes with those phones, battery, camera, memory, storage etc etc. I will point out though that it is a phone not a desktop computer nor a laptop. As such I don't judge it against those criteria. My other choice the Palm-PRE with its multitasking is a new entry into the market. No offence, the reason I bought an Iphone is that it is on its second or third generation depending on how you count these things. I no longer feel a need to be the field test dummy for these technology launches. Yes, I also wanted the PRE but by the time it gets to the android's level I will be in the last year of my straight-jacket contract and looking to possess far far better technology that is racing up behind the current small wave. So, for the same price as these competitors, so far the options for contracts here all seem to cost the same amount for a proper package of services. Draw. My phone is a third generation smart phone and while some call all of Apple's mindset a straight jacket there is some merit to the argument that the interface is somewhat elegant - read easy to use - and once you stop chafing at what you can't do it becomes a tool like any other. I've even made my peace with Itunes, yes it's braindead but I no longer care as I can work around any of that. And, I still have the option to jailbreak this puppy if something better comes on offer. I'm holding that in reserve for the second or third and final year of the contract.
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